Letshuoer Cadenza 12 VS Letshuoer Mystic 8

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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 and Letshuoer Mystic 8 use 1DD+11BA and 8BA driver setups respectively. Letshuoer Cadenza 12 costs $2,299 while Letshuoer Mystic 8 costs $1,000. Letshuoer Cadenza 12 is $1,299 more expensive. Letshuoer Mystic 8 holds a slight 0.1-point edge in reviewer scores (8.3 vs 8.4). Letshuoer Cadenza 12 has better bass with a 0.7-point edge, Letshuoer Mystic 8 has better mids with a 0.6-point edge, Letshuoer Mystic 8 has better treble with a 0.9-point edge, Letshuoer Cadenza 12 has better dynamics with a 0.5-point edge, Letshuoer Cadenza 12 has better soundstage with a 0.5-point edge, Letshuoer Mystic 8 has better details with a 0.8-point edge and Letshuoer Mystic 8 has slightly better imaging with a 0.3-point edge.

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Bass 7.5 6.8
Mids 7.3 7.9
Treble 7.4 8.3
Details 7.3 8
Soundstage 9 8.5
Imaging 7.8 8
Dynamics 7 6.5
Tonality 7.9 7.8
Technicalities 8.4 8.2

Letshuoer Cadenza 12 Aggregated Review Score

Average Reviewer Scores

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Average Reviewer Score:

8.3

Very Positive


Letshuoer Mystic 8 Aggregated Review Score

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Bad Guy Good Audio Smirk Audio
Jaytiss Shuwa-T Gizaudio Axel Head-Fi.org
Z-Reviews Super* Review Jays Audio

Average Reviewer Score:

8.4

Very Positive


Reviews Comparison

Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Jays Audio

Jays Audio 9.5 Reviewer Score
S Tuning
S Tech
A better version of the U12T vocal/tuning wise, no mid scoop and wonkiness. (#1 or #2 vocals for me). Vocals are sweet, extended, open, airy, but also never fatiguing, and naturally weighted. No BA timbre, very natural. Perfect amount of treble detail and air while allowing it to scale at higher volumes. Super smooth dynamics and incredible coherency. TOTL resolution, detail, layering, imaging, and staging. Bass is fine, but not a basshead set - still has a nice slam to it. 07 still scales better and more 3D, but CAD12 stage is more open and better tech. If you don't blast your brains out like me then this is it (although I'm not sure if they're selling this version - maybe request it specifically/ask Joseph?)

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Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Jays Audio

Jays Audio 9 Reviewer Score
S Tuning
S Tech
Vocal benchmark for female vocals under $2000. Clean, airy, sweet, ethereal. Better than Diva and direct upgrade to OG Oracle and OG Mangird Tea. What the Braindamage and Cantor wishes they could be. Great technical performance, and scales decently well. Recommended listening volume is mid to high volume around 75-80dbs. Not for bassy libraries like hiphop, and can be a bit energetic on kpop/jpop/rock stuff with a lot of treble.
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Letshuoer Mystic 8 comes out swinging as a vocal-centric, bright-leaning all-BA set with unusually natural tonality and refined technicalities. Female vocals are the headliner—sweet, airy, and “pure”—without the shrill edge or artificial sheen heard on sets like Brain Dance or Cantor, and fuller, more musical than the clinical Meteor. Stage feels open with strong separation, smooth yet extended treble, and resolution around a Prestige LTD tier. It scales beautifully at mid to mid-high volume (≈75–80 dB), where intimacy and micro-detail bloom.

The low end isn’t about slam, but it’s tight, fast, and well-layered, with a natural mid-bass/lower-mid body that keeps vocals grounded. For hip-hop/R&B/EDM, bass-heavier alternatives will punch harder; on energetic tracks (K-Pop/J-Pop/treble-hot rock) the Mystic 8 can get spicy above ~65 dB, though it remains less fatiguing than the mentioned rivals. Overall, it’s a clean, balanced, bright-tilted tuning that prioritizes air, articulation, and vocal nuance over brute force.

Versus Diva, Mystic 8 offers tamer 1–3 kHz energy, better volume scaling, more natural male vocals, and extra air/detail—while being far cheaper. It feels like a refined, slightly sparklier upgrade over the OG Oracle, and a smoother, airier take on the Mangird Tea vibe. Softears RSV still rules for powerful, forward vocal weight (especially male), but Mystic 8 is cleaner, more spacious, and sweeter for female artists. For all-rounding, Monarch Mk3 and Volür cover pop/hip-hop better; Prestige LTD is the fun V-shaped detour. Gripes? The accessories—cable and case—feel budget at a $1,000 price. Everything else signals an endgame contender for ballads, indie, and slower rock with some of the best female vocals this side of far pricier flagships.


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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Z-Reviews

Z-Reviews 9 * score rescaled + normalized
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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 goes full flagship spectacle: a 12-driver per side build (1 dynamic + 11 BA from Knowles/Sonion), six-way crossover, and heavy metal shells that feel like a prize out of a treasure chest. The unboxing is decadent—fabric-wrapped stock cable with interchangeable plugs, a big faux-leather case, tip sets (foam, Symbio, Xelastec-style), and even a quirky bulldog stand. Fit can be finicky, tip choice matters, and the shells beg for constant polishing; once seated, isolation and comfort are solid.

Sonically, this set is hyper-analytical yet immersive. It “3D-prints” instruments in space, letting a gentle kick drum’s air, pedal thumps on a piano, and micro-dynamics pop with almost studio-monitor precision. Detail retrieval is wild and imaging is pinpoint; mixes get deconstructed so clearly it’s easy to tell what’s acoustic, what’s processed, and where DSP tricks are hiding. The catch: it’s extremely chain-sensitive. Use the stock cable (impedance clearly matters), prefer single-ended over balanced on many amps, and pair with a clean, muscular amplifier—get the combo wrong and mids can go dull or staging collapses; get it right and it’s pure fireworks.

Verdict: an elite, picky flagship that demands careful setup but rewards with one of the most dissecting, vividly placed presentations available in IEMs. Not the most “natural” tuning on earth and far from cheap, yet when everything clicks, the Cadenza 12 delivers a peak listening experience that can ruin lesser gear for good.


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Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Z-Reviews

Z-Reviews 9 * score rescaled + normalized
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Letshuoer Mystic 8 leans hard into “flagship” theatrics: a cat-themed shell, a fancy case with a suction-seal lid, and even bonus jewelry in the box—plus a tray of 18 silicone tips. The metal shells are surprisingly light, the nozzle is long and secure, and fit feels pressure-free rather than stuffed into a tube. The cable looks premium but is very thin, fixed to a 4.4 mm plug with no swappable heads, and carries a leather “sound alive” strap that can’t be removed. Branding/marketing gets a little mystical (phantom cat, starlight, mist), but the build and accessories are undeniably luxe.

Sonically, this is the rare all-BA set that doesn’t sound like one. With an 8-BA array, 4-way tubes, a 3-way crossover, and a low-pass module, the presentation is effortless, tight, and strikingly natural from whisper to “send it.” Transients feel fast—notes appear, clean up, and reset before the next one hits—so the stage reads organized and pinpoint; imaging is “banjo at 1.4° right” levels of precise. Bass doesn’t mimic a big DD’s shove, but it’s taut and sufficient; treble is delicate and refined without splash; mids land neutrally and never shout. It’s also easy to drive and doesn’t need break-in—just plug in and go, then keep turning up without the tuning falling apart.

Source synergy leans toward clean, unflavored players (e.g., warmer DAPs like the Shanling M5 Ultra paired beautifully, while some studio DACs felt flatter). Against kilobuck staples like Monarch, Mystic 8 reads more “plain” in the best way—accurate, open-feeling, and non-insistent. Quibbles: that non-removable strap, the fixed 4.4 mm, and the thinness of the cable at this price. But the verdict is clear: once the music starts, this set shifts from fashion piece to genuinely special transducer—$1,000-worthy for listeners chasing speed, control, and a “disappears-in-the-ears” experience.


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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Jaytiss

Jaytiss 8.8 Reviewer Score
A Tuning
A+ Tech
Great timbre good on classical. Detailed and analytical, but too Safe.
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The 2024 Cadenza 12 makes a strong first impression with premium presentation, though the accessories aren’t flawless. The stock cable looks gorgeous and offers swappable terminations (4.4 / 3.5 / 2.5), but it’s stiff and tricky to coil into the compact case. The metal shell is well-contoured and comfortable with a sensible nozzle lip, yet certain tips can pop off too easily. Overall build feels upscale and weighty without being cumbersome—just expect some practical quirks.

Tonally it sits neutral with a gentle bass lift: clean sub-bass presence without thunder, crisp highs with smooth extension, and a relaxed upper-mid energy that keeps fatigue low. Resolution and imaging are technically adept, but the tuning plays things safe—polished and airy rather than punchy or electrifying. On graphs and by ear it evokes classic “reference” curves (think early Monarch-style balance), trading visceral slam for control and clarity; many audiophiles will find it classy and coherent, while thrill-seekers may wish for more bite.

Against peers, it recalls sets that graph beautifully yet feel a touch reserved in the bass and presence regions. Comparisons to options like Europa highlight how a bit more sub-bass and 4–6 kHz zest can add sparkle and engagement; a light EQ lift to bass and upper mids wakes the Cadenza 12 up nicely. As delivered, it’s a refined, wide, and airy listen that prioritizes neutrality and detail over spectacle—recommended for listeners chasing a mature, low-fatigue signature rather than a high-octane ride.

Mids: A- Treble: A+ Dynamics: A- Soundstage: S

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Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Jaytiss

Jaytiss 8.6 Reviewer Score
A Tuning
S Tech
Lack Bass Richness, but is a beautiful set.
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Build and presentation hit above the price rumor: a dense, metallic shell with a sleek “cat” motif, excellent nozzle/fit, and a surprisingly handy case with a rubber lid that’s easy to pop open. The 8-BA array (Sonion + “NSBA” branded drivers) gives it pedigree, while the stock cable feels a bit chintzy despite a 4.4 mm termination and chin slider. Final pricing isn’t set (the placeholder listing is a meme), but the talk is roughly around $1,000, which frames expectations for the rest.

On tuning, Mystic 8 comes across reference-lean, very clean and clear, with extended upper-mids/treble and a lighter bass shelf. It’s a laid-back, chill listen with strong micro-detail, imaging, and stage, but the macrodynamics feel reserved and the bass lacks some rich, organic texture; hip-hop and slam-seekers may bounce. A small EQ bass lift (sub/mid-bass shelf) unlocks body and brings the set to life without breaking its neutral poise.

In context, it outclasses Cadenza 4 for naturalness and timbre, while Cadenza 12 (2024) offers richer bass but has an odd upper-mid quirk and a much higher tag. The FR echoes the Monarch Mk II; if Monarch felt light down low, Mystic 8 won’t fix that, though it crushes it on shell/build. Versus sets like Thieaudio Origin (bigger shell, weaker micro-detail), Canpur Verdandi (more bass/upper-mid bite), or DAA Mecha (fun but not neutral), Mystic 8 positions itself as a refined, mid-focused all-BA with standout technicals and an ownership appeal. As a ~$1k competitor, it’s compelling—just not the most visceral/engaging without that tasteful EQ nudge.

Mids: A+ Treble: S Dynamics: C+ Soundstage: S-

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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Smirk Audio

Smirk Audio 8.1 Reviewer Score
A+ Tuning
A+ Tech
Bouncy, liquid-like bass. Well-bodied, analogue mids and extended highs. Great staging on all axes. Decent resolution. Excellent all-rounder.

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Bass: S- Mids: A+ Treble: S- Dynamics: A+ Details: A Imaging: S-

Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Smirk Audio

2025-07-16
Smirk Audio 7.4 Reviewer Score
A- Tuning
A Tech
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Bass: A- Mids: A- Treble: A Dynamics: A+ Details: A Imaging: A-

Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Head-Fi.org

Head-Fi.org 8.6 * score rescaled + normalized
17 community members have rated the Letshuoer Cadenza 12 at an average of 4.6/5 on Head-Fi. Overall sentiment: Outstanding.

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Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Head-Fi.org

Head-Fi.org 8.4 * score rescaled + normalized
20 community members have rated the LETSHUOER Mystic 8 at an average of 4.5/5 on Head-Fi. Overall sentiment: Outstanding.

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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 (more reviews)

Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Yifang

Yifang 9 Reviewer Score
S Tuning
S Tech
Tonally excellent with good technicalities, works as an all-rounder. Bass quality is unexpectedly standout and fanastic. Lower price compared to competitors in bracket and is "value" in the high end IEMs. Requires source/cable/tip rolling to improve on tone and technicalities, otherwise can come off as somewhat bright and lacking in bass quantity, and/or technically behind other good sets priced above it.

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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Tim Tuned

Tim Tuned 7 Reviewer Score
A- Tuning
S Tech
One of the best treble-head set. Lots of micro details Treble will be too much for some

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Bass: A+ Mids: A+ Treble: A-

Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Precogvision

Precogvision 6.2 Reviewer Score
B Tuning
B+ Tech
More 'musical' tonality with a touch of spice in the treble. Technicalities could use work for the price.

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Bass: B Mids: B Treble: B Dynamics: B Details: A- Imaging: A-

Letshuoer Cadenza 12 reviewed by Web Search

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Web Search 8.9 Reviewer Score
S- Tuning
S Tech

The Letshuoer Cadenza 12 delivers a balanced sound signature with a slight warmth in the low end, providing clean and textured bass that avoids overwhelming the midrange. Its midrange presentation is natural and resolving, though some listeners noted a recession around 1-2kHz that could thin male vocals slightly, while the treble offers good extension but exhibits a noticeable peak around 10kHz that occasionally introduces harshness or an "echo" effect on certain instruments . Technical performance is a strength, with precise pinpoint imaging and an expansive, holographic soundstage that excels in complex orchestral passages, though some critics felt its resolution doesn’t fully justify the price against established flagships .

Comfort is generally strong due to the surprisingly lightweight titanium shells and ergonomic shape, allowing for extended listening sessions despite their size, though some users reported eventual ear fatigue . The mirror-finish shells attract fingerprints and scratches easily, and the included hybrid cable, while versatile with modular terminations, is often criticized for its stiffness and unwieldy handling . While the packaging and accessories—including a functional leather case and customizable ear tips—are premium, the overall value proposition is debated, particularly when comparing its technical performance to competitors near its $2,300 price .


Letshuoer Mystic 8 (more reviews)

Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Super* Review

Super* Review 9* * score rescaled + normalized
Surprising in a lot of fronts. Maybe a little bit overpriced but I like it
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Letshuoer Mystic 8 lands as a surprising all-BA flagship (~$1,000) from a brand better known for budget planars—complete with a metal storage puck, multiple tip sets, a microfiber cloth… and even a necklace and “cat” ring. Build is standout: compact titanium shells with a subtle feline motif (gem-like eye), small flush fit, and a semi-custom contour that sits very stable once sealed. The nozzle runs a bit long (~6.1 mm), so shorter tips help; that rear wing may bug some ears, but overall comfort and stability are excellent—even sleepable. The weak link is the thin, tangle-prone cable with an unremovable leather tag, though the simple plastic 2-pin connectors are refreshingly practical.

Tonally it’s a bright-leaning neutral: lean lower mids/upper bass, a sub-bass-focused lift (from ~80 Hz down), and a touch of upper-treble energy. Not a basshead set, yet notes carry surprising weight, giving metallic instruments satisfying body without turning dry. Staging and separation are clean, but imaging performance is only mid-pack at the price; the presentation favors macro contrast over micro-texture. A small mid-bass bump (≈ +3 dB around 80 Hz) sweetens the balance. Versus Moondrop S8, the S8 digs more micro detail and images better, but lacks the Mystic 8’s heft. Versus Seventh Acoustics Supernova, Supernova images best and sounds warmer with more mid-bass, though a bit drier. Net: a distinctive, well-built, comfortable set with a unique look and engaging contrast—4/5 stars, if a touch pricey.


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Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Shuwa-T

Shuwa-T 8.3 Reviewer Score
A Tuning
S- Tech
Vocal magic, midrange and upper mids are crystal clear while never being too technical Both sub and midbass presence is less than normal which makes this more genre specific, not particularly suited for bass heavy genres

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Bass: B+ Mids: S- Treble: S- Soundstage: S- Details: S- Imaging: S

Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Gizaudio Axel

2025-09-07
Gizaudio Axel 8 Reviewer Score
A+ Tuning
A+ Tech
Neutral-bright tuning with natural midrange tone. Vocal-focused with realistic timbre. Natural, lifelike mids and vocals. Refined treble with air and clarity. Good technicalities. Light BA bass. Unvented design. Upper treble may bother those who are extra sensitive to treble.
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Letshuoer Mystic 8 arrives as an all-BA set (eight drivers per side) with a compact titanium-alloy build and the striking “Phantom Cat” faceplate. The accessories mirror Letshuoer’s DX1: a sturdy metal-bottom case, nine pairs of silicone tips, cleaning tools, and a non-modular 4.4 mm cable that’s thin, soft, and non-microphonic but a bit tangle-prone. The shells are smooth with no sharp edges, sit flush, and isolate well; comfort is frankly exceptional. As with many all-BA designs there can be some pressure build-up, so sensitive listeners may want to demo first. Tuning is neutral-bright: the BA bass is light on slam yet tight and sufficient to ground the presentation without bleeding into the mids.

The star here is the mid-range: vocals sound lifelike, instruments carry natural tone and convincing timbre, and note weight feels just right. Treble sits slightly above neutral with an upper-treble lift that adds air and openness without harshness or sibilance; cymbals come through crisp rather than metallic. Technicals are solid rather than showy—good resolution, imaging, and separation with an open stage—placed below peak “detail monsters” but still satisfying. Versus Studio 4, Mystic 8 brings more air, energy, and stronger separation; compared to Luna, it trades that warmer, fuller body for cleaner mids and more refined treble; up against the “Caner” 14-BA set, it cedes ultimate detail and bass impact but wins on natural tonality. Recommended for listeners who prioritize mid-range realism and a clear, lively top end; not ideal for bassheads, those highly sensitive to upper-treble lift, or anyone bothered by BA pressure. Final verdict: a confident 4/5 for its engaging neutrality and superb comfort.


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Letshuoer Mystic 8 reviewed by Bad Guy Good Audio

Bad Guy Good Audio 7.9 Reviewer Score
A- Tuning
A- Tech
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Eight balanced armatures (4 Sonion, 4 Knowles) and a lighter, more comfortable fit give the Letshuoer Mystic 8 a strong first impression. The frequency response shows sub-bass priority over mid-bass with a long, even midrange “porch,” creating space and clarity. Against the Cadenza 12, the Mystic 8 comes off less heavy yet more agreeable in tuning, making it one of Letshuoer’s better executions to date. Sticker price discussion aside, the assumption that the priciest model is the best gets challenged here.

On low end, this is not a basshead set yet it doesn’t feel bass-light: 808 drops hit cleanly, bass guitar texture pops, and kick drum carries satisfying punch—surprisingly fuller than the graph or the Cadenza 12 comparison suggests. The mids are the star: vocals sound natural and present without mid-bass bloat or shouty upper-mids, while treble harmonics stay controlled to avoid fatigue. Overall verdict: a solid “competes with peers” in the $1,000 arena, flirting with “I’d buy it” after proper listening time—proof that tuning and execution matter more than driver counts and flagship labels.

Bass: A- Mids: A+ Treble: A+

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Letshuoer Cadenza 12 Gaming Score

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Gaming Score

6.8

Gaming Grade

B+

Letshuoer Mystic 8 Gaming Score

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Gaming Score

7.1

Gaming Grade

A-

Letshuoer Cadenza 12 Scorings

Average Technical & Tuning Grades

Average Tunign Grade

A
  • Overall balance feels confident and refined, rewarding long listening sessions. A reliable all-rounder for everyday listening.

Average Technical Grade

A+
  • A very capable technical display delivers articulate layers and poised imaging. It portrays reverbs and echoes with confidence.
Bass A
The bass hits with conviction, offering both punch and clarity. It reaches low with confidence and control.
Mids A-
Expect lifelike vocals and instruments with impressive nuance and realism. You can easily follow harmonies and backups.
Treble A-
It provides outstanding treble finesse, balancing brightness and control gracefully. It's engaging yet remarkably controlled.
Dynamics A-
Dynamic performance is excellent, combining sharp transients with strong contrast. Transients snap with authority.
Soundstage S
It summons a grand acoustic sphere where distance, height, and width feel unrestricted. You perceive true venue size effortlessly.
Details A-
Micro-details glide to the forefront effortlessly while timbre remains natural. Ambient cues are vivid and lifelike.
Imaging A
Spatial cues respond immediately, reflecting every movement in the mix. Spatial cues respond instantly to the mix.
Gaming B+
Respectable environmental presentation favors atmosphere over precision. Detects obvious directional cues while conveying game world ambiance. Bad value-to-cost for gaming purpose - not recommended

Letshuoer Mystic 8 Scorings

Average Technical & Tuning Grades

Average Tunign Grade

A
  • The response is even and composed, lending itself to effortless genre hopping. Voices sit comfortably in the mix.

Average Technical Grade

A+
  • Layering is confident and precise, backed by imaging that locks elements firmly in place. Micro-details peek through without sounding forced.
Bass B+
Expect a solid thump that keeps the rhythm engaging yet controlled. Sub-bass presence is supportive, not overwhelming.
Mids A
Midrange performance is excellent, with natural timbre and great detail. Vocals feel lifelike and full-bodied.
Treble A+
Treble reaches superb heights, offering effortless extension and crystal clarity. Every cymbal crash resolves into fine mist.
Dynamics B+
It handles shifts in volume well, keeping transients lively and controlled. Quiet-to-loud transitions feel natural.
Soundstage S-
Exceptional soundstage with holographic imaging that lets instruments float naturally around you. It paints a holographic bubble around you.
Details A+
Inner textures glow vividly yet never feel etched or artificial. It borders on studio-monitor transparency.
Imaging A+
Even dense mixes remain locked in place, reinforcing the illusion of physical performers. The stage remains stable regardless of complexity.
Gaming A-
Good fundamental spatial awareness for most gaming scenarios. Handles basic positioning well but may lack nuance in complex situations. Bad value-to-cost for gaming purpose - not recommended

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